Its now April 2019 and the last Bird Journal IOC update was June 2016 (IOC 6.2). The current version published by IOC is 9.1. Its very disappointing when it takes years to update a fundamental taxonomy. This should be the core of Bird Journal and updated as and when a new version is published.
Unfortunately I am starting to get the feeling that the development (and updating of Bird Journal) is grinding to a halt. We get the occasional new or updated taxonomy created by users themselves, but now almost no in-house developments. Its a shame to see what was a great product apparently stagnate and possibly die:(
Sorry for the lack of progress on this. Having a fresh start on this today. Will keep you posted.
We didn't post as there were no notable updates to this topic.
We've just released an important Android app maintenance update, and are presently working on the same for iOS.
Once that's done the focus will be back on IOC.
Could someone at least reply to these comments, has Bird Journal come to an end ?, if so we would like to know.
From your blog in August 2019: "We've made some good progress on an IOC 9.2 taxonomy update in the last weeks. Work is continuing and it will be released soon." GUYS THIS WAS FIVE MONTHS AGO! WHAT IS THE HOLDUP?
Philip Phillips commented
Any idea when IOC will be updated? There will be another version out shortly and as you must be aware, the IOC order has changed quite a bit to say the least!
The main reason I subscribed to Bird Journal was that I was hoping for automatic updates to IOC. Justin has responded several times that this is his first priority but that they are "not getting the time we need at the moment". This is inexcusable. We are paying you exactly to have someone find the time and get it done!
I used to recommend to friends to sign up. Sadly I can no longer recommend Bird Journal.
David Hill commented
The database is nearly 3.5 years and about 150 changes out of date, Two recent assurances that update is imminent and nothing has appeared. Time to start looking elsewhere, which having taken two months to enter my spreadsheet based data is somewhat galling!
Mark Worsey commented
Justin - can you give a timescale for when you are aiming for this to be available please?
Yes I just paid my subscription also, and it really jarred with me this time considering the 3 year wait for an IOC update, and 4 months since you restarted your efforts. Not here to tell you how to run your business, but if you are unable to do what needs to be done, maybe you need to invest some of the subscription money you've collected into someone who can. From experience, this will be cheaper than losing subscription revenue in the future.
Tony Parsons commented
Just had December British Birds (4/12/2019), with RBBP report. Checked on BB site, and the WP list was updated January 1 2019. Any chance of a WP taxonomy update for Bird Journal soon, please - say as a Christmas Present ? You e-mailed me saying my subscription was due. I consider that by paying it, I am doing my part - I would appreciate it if you were to do yours.
Steve Wood commented
Back in April you said the updates were on the top of your list.
Looks like there is still work to do?
Just back from New Caledonia and "bird journal" list, for this area, is sadly not up to date. e.g
Whistlers and Parakeets.
Honestly..... are you ever going to to sort out your taxonomy issues or are we all just wasting our time?
Any news on the update? Leaving for a Colombia trip in a few weeks' time and the IOC update would be most welcome.
There are two specific updates that need to be made to the North American library:
1.The Western Scrub-Jay now consists of two species: the California Scrub-Jay and the Woodhouse's Scrub-Jay.
2. The Gray Jay has been changed to the Canada Jay.
There are probably more changes - but these are two I've run across recently.
Would you please make these changes to the library as soon as possible?
Steve Wood commented
Another very frustrated customer!....The updates for the checklist should be a priority, this is the whole point of signing up to a database like this, to have an up to date record keeping system.
To say you don't have enough time at the moment is simple not good enough.
It's not as if you are just a little behind; you are now three years behind the current IOC list!
Apologies, we need to do better here. It's still at the top of the list, we're just not getting the time we need at the moment.
Have tried to request info on updates, but nobody from Bird Journal seems to reply to any requests, it would appear they don't actually look at these suggestions or comments or their Twitter feed
very DISAPPOINTING , waiting for updates, looking to change my recording program, no good if years out of date. Any updates in the pipeline, the Bird Journal team could at least reply to these concerns.
Agree, has been promised for some time but have failed to deliver. It would be good to have visibility of the timeline. Other software packages like Scythebill can update IOC within days of an update.